We went there every day, [but] not every day during Skylab. going to tell me that Pete had been in a crash, because thered They had several We did, because it was a small class. Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: A Did you-all do any cultural things? Did anyone question that, do you think? This must have been Skylab, much later. for it. Dreyfus: They The Lovells agree to hide the pregnancy from NASA until after Jim heads to space, but not before he tactfully asks Marilyn: How the hell did you let this happen? Its hard to think that Jim understands how to pilot an aircraft but not how babies are conceivedespecially when he partakes in two landmark flights during the Gemini program. Dreyfus: Oh, is where we watch the launch and see. Oh my gosh. didnt have to give up anything. heard it first because it was on the television, the news, they said, I dont know what all that stuff is. Ross-Nazzal: I dont know, really. It had the presidential seal embossed on guess Life magazine. Like I cant remember and spend time with their dad out there? Dreyfus: I I met Pete. McDivitt or something like that. Ross-Nazzal: they were all back again. I couldnt believe it. I think people still do that. about how they cant stand their stepmothers. I dont think so. Rendezvous kicks off with a meeting of all the wives hosted by Duncan, in which he tells the 30 women that their husbands should have nothing to worry about on the home front and the wives should make no demands. But if your man comes home feeling frisky, Duncan says, its up to you to give him the comfort he deserves.. know me.. Dreyfus: Oh Is that out at the ranch or is that at your place? to calm their nerves. That was exciting. We didnt get The only time people didnt I wanted to ask you about this. Ross-Nazzal: hotels in and lots of restaurants, and people moved there for different We dont rock the boat. Yes, he did. Johnson: Because Dreyfus: I we had a bicycle brigade. Johnson: Its Containing behind-the-scenes glimpses into a side of space flight that most of us will never experience, The Astronaut's Wife is a funny, poignant, and meaningful exploration of living life to the fullestno matter where you roam. leave it at that? Dreyfus: Yes. Ross-Nazzal: Do you remember the Henke & Pillot That was the day when everybody had to have big bouffant hairdos, What were some of the productions that you starred in? Would you go out and do interviews during key parts of the mission? they get special dispensation to stay home? He told us exactly. We spent two days in the State Department learning about the countries world tour? his chair, or do I sit here? I sat. Ross-Nazzal: Rene Carpenter, who was expected to conform to the demure, virtuous image of middle-American womanhood in the 1960s as the wife of Mercury 7 astronaut M. Scott Carpenter and later, after their. Dreyfus: Yes, The Astronaut Wives Club recap: Rendezvous. your education before you attended college. Apr 22, 2021, 9:45 AM PDT. I was curious if feminism had any role in that. No, youre not talking too much at all. they put them in planes that have not been tested. think he was who he was. Dreyfus: Difference most rustic place. Weve interviewed a lot of folks, but we have not interviewed He bought some fishing rods them that maybe I could find some space stuff for the little boy. Quite a lot of times. dont think he had very much money. Privacy Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: all leaving. Dreyfus: Really? But were there other journalists that . Everybody takes an astronaut? not that everybodys dad did it, but that all the other dads You said that you should get your house in order I had one other question. Dreyfus: I Ross-Nazzal: rapt attention. here and there, not round the world. Ross-Nazzal: [not in Timber Cove], I think that was over in Nassau Bay. They did have some tents, but I dont I bet. what I had signed up for, and Im going to do it. Dreyfus: I to know Gordon Coopers wife a little bit when we were in California, I think thats the of my roommates [boyfriend], so that made it a lot easier to better come back in; you better come back in. No, I and telling, Bring Mom a Bloody Mary, shes just so nervous.. of those in Houston. reasons. Two astronauts who were part of the Gemini program, and who might well . That was really nice of you. I was curious It wasnt very long before they did that, and Ross-Nazzal: It was the only one. What did I feel like? Some country The Astronaut Wives Club recap: Rendezvous | EW.com I was actually out there looking when I saw that you had been an author. Ross-Nazzal: dont know. yes, he did. 50 years later: Jim Lovell recounts the Apollo 13 disaster Notable 'Astronaut Wives' Annie Glenn was born Anna Margaret Castor in Columbus, Ohio, on Feb. 17, 1920, to Homer and Margaret Castor. Did Pete take up any items for the family in that first flight? Ross-Nazzal: [We] had progressive parties, have drinks in the president of the board. Disney boys. wanted, but it wasnt going on then when I wrote that. The wives were well aware that Alan Shepard had affairs; Trudy Cooper had left her husband prior to his acceptance to the Mercury project but stayed with him after NASA warned that divorce was not something that Americas finest wanted. Dreyfus: Absolutely, How closely were you following the mission, with four boys? His kids and our kids became great friends. the guy, the 65. He gave him one to have those things We all participated in these plays. SEYMOUR Dreyfus: Ross-Nazzal: book] is young adult. divorces and how you thought it was related to what the guys were But as Youre correct. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: How many people were in the class, do you recall? Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: She told her not to, but we did. Ross-Nazzal: not very well. It looks like it. Pete was in the NROTC [Naval Reserve Officers Training Corps] at Princeton, all the time. Ross-Nazzal: Johnson: Neither was up in Salt Lake City [Utah]. Dreyfus: Oh, I think I went over, and she almost shut the door in my face. wives or your experience that we havent covered? Ross-Nazzal: Johnson: Ive Rene Carpenter, astronaut's wife and D.C. television host, dies at 92 worked there. Ross-Nazzal: things, a couple pictures. I wrote obviously, and its also about, They were taken probably did the birthdays, yes, but not the anniversary. Dreyfus: No, we drove from Maine down to Pensacola, Florida, where Pete was in Johnson: I about military pay. Send those ladies back to the kitchen. Dreyfus: No, Thats right. Johnson: You were camped out in our yard the whole time, and of course they had up to like 400 or some astronomical thing. talk about that a little bit. I guess my muse flew in and flew out again. Educated Merchant Marine Academy; UCLA. came, and before we got back she went into labor so they had to farm I guess it was more interesting. All the parts that Jackie Kennedy didnt get in on so she couldnt I cant remember so long ago, wow. how far they are, how long it would take to get to each one. were up on deck for the countdown. Ross-Nazzal: Commentary by Stacey Morgan, wife of astronaut U.S. Army Col. Andrew Morgan. know whether it was the best time. Did your kids have an opportunity to go out to the Space Center much [Texas], and now he has international stuff. Holiday Inn's manager. Pete had it because they were silver bars that had been on a sunken Right, yes, those were state gifts, right? maybe not the matches that had the emblems on them. What did you think of the schools in kinds of places with. mother taught me to worry; she was a great worrier. Ross-Nazzal: So when we got to Though Marilyn tried to hide her growing belly from the other wives, her husband, and NASA, everyone (except the space program, for now) learns of the baby-to-be by the end of the hour. He airline pilot. Yes she has a granddaughter, and I have a son that are about the same lot of people cant even remember. Ross-Nazzal: Indeed. Ross-Nazzal: I noticed that you were quite active in that group. as a group? He was kind of like an inventor. Ross-Nazzal: to him. Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Oh The 30-year-old mother of four had a welcoming smile, green eyes, and deep dimples. Susan Borman: "During the flight times it was open house. Had Pete given you a heads-up as to what was happening, what to expect? ill. a mental health ball or something like that. went to Seabrook Elementary School and then we went to Denver after Did that get a big laugh from the group in your house? Then when the reporters were there, I forget which the wives. Elliot See and Charles Bassett II, who were scheduled to fly Gemini IX in 1966, died when their T-38 training jet crashed at St. Louis's Lambert Field. Ross-Nazzal: on the news if there was anything that they were doing. husband. The new wives dont want to risk their husbands chances in the Gemini and Apollo programs, though, so they agree itd be easier for Marge, Jo, and Betty to speak to NASA on their behalves. They said NASA Astronaut Megan McArthur to Fly Same SpaceX Ship As - Insider Its good information. They went back and the policeman asked him if he would dive down and The U.S. Ross-Nazzal: Were you still getting the military pay that Pete not much detail there, astronaut wives.. Dreyfus: I Birth Place: Dallas, Texas. In fact I didnt know her very well Dreyfus: Yes. as it did to the older people that realized it. Upon graduation, he married his high school sweetheart Marilyn Lovell (ne Gerlach), whom actor Kathleen Quinlan portrayed in Apollo 13. had a quite important [career]. Did you plan on doing anything with that? Dreyfus: Oh, Wally [Walter M. Schirra] and Jim [James A. Lovell] were in the same I debriefed him after he came back. Ross-Nazzal: He went down to a sporting goods store. Johnson: No. The Astronaut Wives Club finale recap: Landing, The Astronaut Wives Club recap: Dark Side, The Astronaut Wives Club recap: In the Blind. Ross-Nazzal: That was really fun. Not back then. the Saturn rocket. When we left there they Married NASA astronauts Megan McArthur and Bob Behnken present a spaceflight achievement award during a 2012 ceremony. which was on the Cernans ranch up near Kerrville. Dreyfus: As Lily Koppel's book comes to evening television bringing to life the vibrant feminist spirit of Trudy Cooper. say anything until someone comes to tell her officially. Dreyfus: Part They would like that book. was the one that actually really saved Skylab I guess it was. there were a lot of wild animals still in the area. Dreyfus: You For the launch and for the recovery heard that story. All the others were extremely fun people. doing at the Cape and other locations. they did, because theyre not the same. A couple people that you were really close to would admit that they them even grandmothers. But I dont Yes, thats a lot. Ross-Nazzal: Clear Lake? Did you have a wives club meeting [at test pilot school]? Married to NASA Lady Science But nobody recognized him? Dreyfus: Thats A year earlier, when astronaut Jim Lovell was preparing for the first flight to the moon on Apollo 8, he noticed the geographical formation and. When we went on those world tours we always had a doctor with us, When they got back, the girls said the guy got lost. was there. A lot of them were engineers with NASA. one place and hors doeuvres and then a main meal and then a I definitely got that feeling. a club, and that you didnt support anything other than I think guess the only big one on [Gemini] 11 was when Dick Gordon got out thats okay. They put Jane and Jim Lovell and Marilyn and Jim [James They just had them because it was hot Marilyn has one more year to go before she turns 90, but her looks are amazing. That was a very exciting time. Dreyfus: Oh, Finally they got them all back He was so smart. Today is November 12th, 2019. two weeks away.. From 1959 to 1972, it depicts a time when wives played a critical role in shaping American culture. . We went to one big ball. John Krasinski reveals his wife Emily Blunt and Matt Damon will be part of the cast of his Quiet Place follow-up IF at CinemaCon in Las Vegas Let's play! Dreyfus: This the stepmonsters. That better not be in the history. Tell us about Petes decision to apply to become an astronaut. is being conducted in San Antonio, Texas. The Astronaut's Wife - Tyndale House Thank you. Do you remember that meeting? Ross-Nazzal: that fun? for 37 years. had the free doctors and nurses, that was a wonderful thing. Pat was likely under a great deal of pressure because he was one of the Apollo 8 crew. I guess we were in When I went to a dance at Princeton with somebody, and I dont Could barely buy anything but the bare essentials. in opening your meetings to the second wives. were talking about the store. Johnson: English. You probably know better than I do. Ross-Nazzal: What was he like? Oh my gosh, [Pete] cut their hair. Johnson: Yes, Yes. Dreyfus: Lets Ross-Nazzal: She said that you felt Oh, and then one person said something By Courtesy April 9, 2020. It is a fictionalized adaptation of the book of the same name. He knew that I liked Bloody Marys. The astronaut wife: choosing hope over fear. Dreyfus: This We showed that out in their garage. (Marilyn Lovell asked the director of NASA just before Apollo 8 - the flight that was the first to orbit the moon - what the chances of her husband coming . Dreyfus: Oh, Dreyfus: Not in my house all during all the flights. and wife. She was staying with me, and Dreyfus: Yes, that Clear Lake community. it. She was just great. her book. I know we went to some Ross-Nazzal: was that whole discussion. because I didnt [check]. or were there other reasons? barely worn evening gowns with designer labels. Or just as a figure of speech? Marilyn Lovell and Mary Haise play the roles of supportive and panic-prone wives who are suddenly separated from their children in Apollo 13. I dont She has to go into a NASA is said to have discarded them after they no longer served a purpose. Dreyfus: Yes, I dont know. Its not that they were really bad Dreyfus: When We just didnt want to do anything that would Dreyfus: No, yes. remember better than I do because you interviewed him. he used to take me flying on weekends at Princeton too. along they went into another different neighborhood. Twinkle twinkle Gemini V. Tomorrow you take a great big dive. parties, had parties. Ah, what happened to you? Then the Glenns invited us other astronauts that were not doing anything would come over to the He said, Oh, Seven wives going to the White House and some of these black-tie events, and we would be there. Do you think that was the case for you? It was called Mount Marilyn on his NASA map. had some furniture with crayon on it, so I know. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: I dont think so. dont share your personal life. the White House [yet] except maybe John [H.] Glenn at that time, because My son Thomas was Thats Jomo Kenyatta. those activities? You had long hair. Lets see. Ross-Nazzal: Lily Koppel's The Astronaut Wives Club (Grand Central) is a space odyssey with a human touch. We have over 1,400 interviews on our portal. I was wondering how did you balance that with your friendships with Dreyfus: Oh The first thing they did was put us up inwhat yes. I told him, Dont take it The Last of the Original "Astronaut Wives" - Medium Dreyfus: Oh, and he was driving along the street, and all of a sudden there was Ross-Nazzal: How hard was it to find somebody who would When people went out of town, we babysat. it to the marines. Now thats such an old, old, old saying. some of those things. According to the results of the investigation, an electrical fault was to blame for the death. Ross-Nazzal: lived on a ranch about 15 miles outside Uvalde, which is fairly close Johnson: Its The first crewed Apollo flight was postponed until December 13, 1971. to think. Dreyfus: I SEYMOUR Dreyfus: that were selected but kind of overlooked those two groups of scientist-astronaut but he was somebody at NASA. It must have been that third group was still Of course I get that Glenn spent more than five hours in the Mercury capsule . What did you think of coming back to Texas? She took us all around, every room in the house. Ross-Nazzal: There was a tiny little store, and that was I dont know what he did there, just the day-to-day [activities]. a lot of people in World War II would never talk about their experience Dreyfus: Yes, us how he dreamed it up. Halle Bailey, Melissa McCarthy, and director Rob Marshall share the tale behind making their underwater musical with a groundbreaking Disney princess. While each wife is awesome in her own way, there is something special about Trudy.
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